It's not a long article. I'll just post it and save you guys the click:
Obama is Stoking Racial Antagonism by Rush Limbaugh
I understand the rough and tumble of politics. But Barack Obama -- the supposedly postpartisan, postracial candidate of hope and change -- has gone where few modern candidates have gone before.
Mr. Obama's campaign is now trafficking in prejudice of its own making. And in doing so, it is playing with political dynamite. What kind of potential president would let his campaign knowingly extract two incomplete, out-of-context lines from two radio parodies and build a framework of hate around them in order to exploit racial tensions? The segregationists of the 1950s and 1960s were famous for such vile fear-mongering.
Here's the relevant part of the Spanish-language television commercial Mr. Obama is running in Hispanic communities:
"They want us to forget the insults we've put up with . . . the intolerance . . . they made us feel marginalized in this country we love so much."
Then the commercial flashes two quotes from me: ". . . stupid and unskilled Mexicans" and "You shut your mouth or you get out!"
And then a voice says, "John McCain and his Republican friends have two faces. One that says lies just to get our vote . . . and another, even worse, that continues the policies of George Bush that put special interests ahead of working families. John McCain . . . more of the same old Republican tricks."
Much of the media that is uninterested in Mr. Obama's connections to unrepentant 1970s Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers and Rev. Jeremiah Wright have so far gone along with the attempt to tie me to Mr. McCain. But Mr. McCain and I have not agreed on how to address illegal immigration. While I am heartened by his willingness to start by securing the borders, it is no secret that we have fundamental differences on illegal immigration.
And more to the point, these sound bites are a deception, and Mr. Obama knows it. The first sound bite was extracted from a 1993 humorous monologue poking fun at the arguments against the North American Free Trade Agreement. Here's the context:
"If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine 'cause those are the kinds of jobs Nafta is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do -- let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
My point, which is obvious, was that the people who were criticizing Nafta were demeaning workers, particularly low-skilled workers. I was criticizing the mind-set of the protectionists who opposed the treaty. There was no racial connotation to it and no one thought there was at the time. I was demeaning the arguments of the opponents.
As for the second sound bite, I was mocking the Mexican government's double standard -- i.e., urging open borders in this country while imposing draconian immigration requirements within its own borders. Thus, I took the restrictions Mexico imposes on immigrants and appropriated them as my own suggestions for a new immigration law.
Here's the context for that sound bite: "And another thing: You don't have the right to protest. You're allowed no demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. You're a foreigner: shut your mouth or get out! And if you come here illegally, you're going to jail."
At the time, I made abundantly clear that this was a parody on the Mexican government's hypocrisy and nobody took it otherwise.
The malignant aspect of this is that Mr. Obama and his advisers know exactly what they are doing. They had to listen to both monologues or read the transcripts. They then had to pick the particular excerpts they used in order to create a commercial of distortions. Their hoped-for result is to inflame racial tensions. In doing this, Mr. Obama and his advisers have demonstrated a pernicious contempt for American society.
We've made much racial progress in this country. Any candidate who employs the tactics of the old segregationists is unworthy of the presidency.
>> ^Lumm: >> ^thepinky: Give me a break, you guys. Obama pulled the same stuff on McCain. Remember that Spanish language ad that slandered Rush Limbaugh, took his words out of context, and tied him to John McCain? The ad makes a pitiful attempt to make McCain seem like a bigot, when we all know that he is not. That's hate-mongering if I've ever seen it. There are others but I'm going to take a nap instead of finding them.
I don't love O'Reilly or McCain or Limbaugh, I'm just pointing out that Obama has gotten his hands just as dirty as McCain. Ugh. I hate these presidential candidates more than any others I've seen in my lifetime.
Here's the "context" from Mr. Limbaugh himself:
"If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine 'cause those are the kinds of jobs Nafta is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do -- let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
Actually, that still sounds pretty bigoted to me. Quote is from Limbaugh's Wall Street Journal piece:
Even though I'm right, your comment got a vote and mine got downvoted. It's almost laughable.
Speaking of taking things out of context, did you read the paragraph after the one that you quoted? He says:
"My point, which is obvious, was that the people who were criticizing Nafta were demeaning workers, particularly low-skilled workers. I was criticizing the mind-set of the protectionists who opposed the treaty. There was no racial connotation to it and no one thought there was at the time. I was demeaning the arguments of the opponents."
This time go back and read the entire article and not just the parts that will help you win your argument, m'kay?
Why can't you just admit that Obama's ad was sleazy and stupid? I can admit that McCain's ads have been. OPEN YOUR MIND.
Nope. Wasn't in a coma. I don't like Bush and I never did. What bugs me is that you whine like somebody else is always to blame. A few of the people in our current government are Democrats and a few of them have a teensy bit of power (I'm not sure you knew about that). We're all in the same boat and we all want to do the right thing. If America fails, it will not be the fault of one party or one bad president. I'm annoyed by people who think that playing the blame game is productive. Complaining about rigged elections is just plain ol' unhelpful WHINING. Plus it isn't funny, even for liberals.
>> ^thinker247: And what would happen if Keith Ellison, the Muslim Congressman from Minnesota, was to run for President? Has he tried to take over America with jihad?
Everybody uses the world Muslim like it's equivalent with terrorist. In that vein, I could call every Christian in this country Timothy McVeigh.
I can't get way from these moronic McCain supporters who think that Obama is a Muslim, as if that would be a bad thing.
Holy fuck.
Yeah, they're kind of like the HUGE group of people who chose Mitt Romney's Mormonism as a reason not to vote for him. The fact of the matter is that people are still very bigoted when it comes to religion in this country. Everyone, including Atheists, could use a good dose of tolerance and humility.
The largest Christian church in this area is almost openly hostile against members of my church. I sometimes wonder if they have ANY idea what Jesus Christ stood for.
I agree with bareboards. This video isn't even worth our time. This woman is clearly not intelligent and very ignorant. Sifters probably love it because they see it as some kind of reflection on McCain supporters. All I see is some silly people letting themselves become offended by a half-crazy lady. She's 75 and they're sort of bullying her.
At least what that ad says is true, albeit HEAVILY slanted and WAY over the top. Both of these guys are despicable. Mark my words: Obama will not be a good president. And if by some miracle McCain wins, he'll be almost as great a disaster.
Give me a break, you guys. Obama pulled the same stuff on McCain. Remember that Spanish language ad that slandered Rush Limbaugh, took his words out of context, and tied him to John McCain? The ad makes a pitiful attempt to make McCain seem like a bigot, when we all know that he is not. That's hate-mongering if I've ever seen it. There are others but I'm going to take a nap instead of finding them.
I don't love O'Reilly or McCain or Limbaugh, I'm just pointing out that Obama has gotten his hands just as dirty as McCain. Ugh. I hate these presidential candidates more than any others I've seen in my lifetime.
I watched this twice and I'm thinking of watching it thrice. HOLY CRAP THAT'S A HUGE STAR!!! It's a blessing that God didn't give us full comprehension of how miniscule we are in this vast universe. Our tiny brains might have exploded.
I LOVE this song. Good video, too. I just read on Wiki that Out of the Fierce Parade was produced and mixed by Death Cab for Cutie guitarist Chris Walla.
Ryjkyj
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ThePinky said:
"I would have liked Palin's answer much more if she had said something more like my opinion, which is:"
For some reason I just find this statement fucking hilarious.
Palin Explains Why Raped Women Should Be Forced ToBear child
ThePinky said:
"I would have liked Palin's answer much more if she had said something more like my opinion, which is:"
For some reason I just find this statement fucking hilarious.
That's because I'm a funny gal.
McCain finally doing the right thing.
Obama is Stoking Racial Antagonism
by Rush Limbaugh
I understand the rough and tumble of politics. But Barack Obama -- the supposedly postpartisan, postracial candidate of hope and change -- has gone where few modern candidates have gone before.
Mr. Obama's campaign is now trafficking in prejudice of its own making. And in doing so, it is playing with political dynamite. What kind of potential president would let his campaign knowingly extract two incomplete, out-of-context lines from two radio parodies and build a framework of hate around them in order to exploit racial tensions? The segregationists of the 1950s and 1960s were famous for such vile fear-mongering.
Here's the relevant part of the Spanish-language television commercial Mr. Obama is running in Hispanic communities:
"They want us to forget the insults we've put up with . . . the intolerance . . . they made us feel marginalized in this country we love so much."
Then the commercial flashes two quotes from me: ". . . stupid and unskilled Mexicans" and "You shut your mouth or you get out!"
And then a voice says, "John McCain and his Republican friends have two faces. One that says lies just to get our vote . . . and another, even worse, that continues the policies of George Bush that put special interests ahead of working families. John McCain . . . more of the same old Republican tricks."
Much of the media that is uninterested in Mr. Obama's connections to unrepentant 1970s Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers and Rev. Jeremiah Wright have so far gone along with the attempt to tie me to Mr. McCain. But Mr. McCain and I have not agreed on how to address illegal immigration. While I am heartened by his willingness to start by securing the borders, it is no secret that we have fundamental differences on illegal immigration.
And more to the point, these sound bites are a deception, and Mr. Obama knows it. The first sound bite was extracted from a 1993 humorous monologue poking fun at the arguments against the North American Free Trade Agreement. Here's the context:
"If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine 'cause those are the kinds of jobs Nafta is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do -- let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
My point, which is obvious, was that the people who were criticizing Nafta were demeaning workers, particularly low-skilled workers. I was criticizing the mind-set of the protectionists who opposed the treaty. There was no racial connotation to it and no one thought there was at the time. I was demeaning the arguments of the opponents.
As for the second sound bite, I was mocking the Mexican government's double standard -- i.e., urging open borders in this country while imposing draconian immigration requirements within its own borders. Thus, I took the restrictions Mexico imposes on immigrants and appropriated them as my own suggestions for a new immigration law.
Here's the context for that sound bite: "And another thing: You don't have the right to protest. You're allowed no demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. You're a foreigner: shut your mouth or get out! And if you come here illegally, you're going to jail."
At the time, I made abundantly clear that this was a parody on the Mexican government's hypocrisy and nobody took it otherwise.
The malignant aspect of this is that Mr. Obama and his advisers know exactly what they are doing. They had to listen to both monologues or read the transcripts. They then had to pick the particular excerpts they used in order to create a commercial of distortions. Their hoped-for result is to inflame racial tensions. In doing this, Mr. Obama and his advisers have demonstrated a pernicious contempt for American society.
We've made much racial progress in this country. Any candidate who employs the tactics of the old segregationists is unworthy of the presidency.
McCain finally doing the right thing.
>> ^thepinky:
Give me a break, you guys. Obama pulled the same stuff on McCain. Remember that Spanish language ad that slandered Rush Limbaugh, took his words out of context, and tied him to John McCain? The ad makes a pitiful attempt to make McCain seem like a bigot, when we all know that he is not. That's hate-mongering if I've ever seen it. There are others but I'm going to take a nap instead of finding them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkzvFAOcw6I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLa5EeLNUSk
And here's Bill slamming both of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S417X0RsHks
I don't love O'Reilly or McCain or Limbaugh, I'm just pointing out that Obama has gotten his hands just as dirty as McCain. Ugh. I hate these presidential candidates more than any others I've seen in my lifetime.
Here's the "context" from Mr. Limbaugh himself:
"If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine 'cause those are the kinds of jobs Nafta is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do -- let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
Actually, that still sounds pretty bigoted to me. Quote is from Limbaugh's Wall Street Journal piece:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178554189155003.html
Even though I'm right, your comment got a vote and mine got downvoted. It's almost laughable.
Speaking of taking things out of context, did you read the paragraph after the one that you quoted? He says:
"My point, which is obvious, was that the people who were criticizing Nafta were demeaning workers, particularly low-skilled workers. I was criticizing the mind-set of the protectionists who opposed the treaty. There was no racial connotation to it and no one thought there was at the time. I was demeaning the arguments of the opponents."
This time go back and read the entire article and not just the parts that will help you win your argument, m'kay?
Why can't you just admit that Obama's ad was sleazy and stupid? I can admit that McCain's ads have been. OPEN YOUR MIND.
Homer Simpson tries to vote for Obama
"Obama Is An Arab"-Says McCain Volunteer In Letters
And what would happen if Keith Ellison, the Muslim Congressman from Minnesota, was to run for President? Has he tried to take over America with jihad?
Everybody uses the world Muslim like it's equivalent with terrorist. In that vein, I could call every Christian in this country Timothy McVeigh.
I can't get way from these moronic McCain supporters who think that Obama is a Muslim, as if that would be a bad thing.
Holy fuck.
Yeah, they're kind of like the HUGE group of people who chose Mitt Romney's Mormonism as a reason not to vote for him. The fact of the matter is that people are still very bigoted when it comes to religion in this country. Everyone, including Atheists, could use a good dose of tolerance and humility.
The largest Christian church in this area is almost openly hostile against members of my church. I sometimes wonder if they have ANY idea what Jesus Christ stood for.
"Obama Is An Arab"-Says McCain Volunteer In Letters
McCain finally doing the right thing.
http://www.videosift.com/video/McCains-Latest-Obama-is-a-terrorist-add
At least what that ad says is true, albeit HEAVILY slanted and WAY over the top. Both of these guys are despicable. Mark my words: Obama will not be a good president. And if by some miracle McCain wins, he'll be almost as great a disaster.
McCain finally doing the right thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkzvFAOcw6I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLa5EeLNUSk
And here's Bill slamming both of them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S417X0RsHks
I don't love O'Reilly or McCain or Limbaugh, I'm just pointing out that Obama has gotten his hands just as dirty as McCain. Ugh. I hate these presidential candidates more than any others I've seen in my lifetime.
Homer Simpson tries to vote for Obama
Rigged elections boo hoo! Waaaaah free market! Republicans ruined my life! BOOHOO America sucks amd my party has nothing to do with it WAAAAAAAH!
Wow. THAT was irrelevant.
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gorillaman
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>> ^spoco2:
How, exactly, is he wrong sir gm?
He's wrong because words spell concepts, not just sounds. Etymology is at least as important to meaning as pronunciation.
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